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someone in the drive way. >> you were chatting online with someone you thought was 13. >> i have interest in younger girls. that is a fantasy of mine. >> is this like "dateline"? >> that would be the cleanest best pleasure. >> to have sex with a 13-year-old girl? >> yes. >> tonight they're back, a string of suspects targeting children. it's another undercover sting. >> when i saw this on "dateline," i thought, that is so sick. >> a "dateline" net crime to catch a predator. >> thanks for joining us. i'm ann curry, since we first began our series of reports, investigating online sex
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predators, we've been to several states. this time we've set up our hidden cameras in a rented house in rural georgia. once again, even men who have seen our reports show up at the door. some of what you're about to hear and see is explicit. here's chris hanson. >> i got an update on skewy doo's car. >> on a winding country road, a sex predator approaches a house where he believes a child is waiting for him. he's driven a long way for this meeting, almost two hours. >> there he is. >> but the driver won't find a young girl inside. instead, a "dateline" investigative team awaits his arrival. why is this man making such a long trip in the dead of night? perhaps because he believes a 15-year-old girl is alone inside ready to have sex with him. >> open the door and call him. he's coming.
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>> but his journey didn't begin today. it began more than a week earlier when he entered a yahoo! georgia chatroom and decided to hit on a decoy, an adult posing as a 15-year-old. it didn't take long for the 23-year-old, screen name scooby-doo atl-01 to steer the chat towards sex. he asked all kinds of sexual questions, like what positions you have tried? do you like doggy? the decoy says, i never did doggy before, and scoobydoo says, "if we ever have sex, i will introduce it to you. but i switch positions a lot so you're bound to learn a few new tricks." now the man with the bag of tricks is walking in our house. we hired a very young-looking 19-year-old to play the part of the girl. >> hey. >> hey. >> took you a while to get here. >> yeah, someone can't give good directions of where they live. >> i'm taking stuff out of the dryer. it will take a second. i made you some sweet tea. you can have some while i take
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this stuff out. >> you would never guess by the way this man confidentially walks into his house that he has seen "dateline's" investigation into internet sex predators before, and he's still willing to risk being exposed on national television. you have a hard time finding the place? >> yeah, man. >> got lost, huh? >> yeah, who are you? >> who are you? >> i'm dennis. >> in our latest hidden camera operation, this time in rural fortson, georgia, 90 minutes south of atlanta, it doesn't surprise us that the chatrooms are full of men aware of our previous investigation. men who want to have sex with a minor but are concerned they might be caught on tape. >> you see we have been referenced by name at this point. did you ever see "to catch a predator"? >> you think that this is a deterrent in some ways? >> they are not coming over because they are afraid it's media. >> del harvey, her screen name,
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is a member of perverted-justice, the online watchdog group dedicated to catching internet sex predators. >> it's just a matter of getting them in the door. >> "dateline" paid perverted-justice a consultant's fee to do what it usually does, go into chat rooms posing as 13-year-olds to 15-year-olds home alone interested in sex. some decoys pretend to be eager about sex. that's because experts we have spoken to say young teens are often curious, even precocious, when it comes to chatting online about sex without knowing the potential life-long repercussions of being molested by an adult. >> i don't know if anybody's in chat. >> while it's encouraging to hear our investigations have scared off some potential child molesters, others like scooby doo atl 01 obviously didn't get the message. his real name is denis coulson, a construction worker from atlanta. he's here to make a girl named izzy. how old is she? >> she's 18.
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>> it would be cool, then, because she's of legal age? >> yeah. >> the problem with that though is i have the transcript of your online chats. >> okay. >> so you want to start again, and tell the story from the top? >> yeah. >> okay. she told me she's 15. >> what did you guys talk about? >> a lot of different things i shouldn't be talking about. >> give me an example. >> i asked her if she was a virgin. >> if she was a virgin. why would you ask that question of a 15-year-old girl? >> i don't know. i'm sorry. i apologize. i did not have plans to do anything tonight. >> did you bring condoms? >> no, sir, i have condoms in my pocket. >> so you did bring condoms. >> i have them for safety. it's just hanging out. i wasn't going to do anything. >> but you talk about jail. >> i know. >> you can't go to jail for not doing anything. when i start to read some of the his chat log, he gets up and starts pacing. "what positions you have tried?" >> oh, god, i'm an idiot. >> you know how to ride? you like doggy? then you ask -- >> stop it, okay. >> just one more.
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you ask if you delete all of the ims when you're done. i'd hate to have your mom get nosy. now it's time to tell him something he already knows. have you ever seen the program "dateline nbc"? >> oh, yes, i probably have. oh, my god. >> have you ever seen the stories -- >> yes, yes. >> where men come to the house trying to meet teens? >> but i wasn't trying to do that. i promise. >> i have to tell you something. i'm chris hansen with "dateline nbc" and we are doing a story. on guys, men trying to meet teens on the internet. >> this is stupid. i'm a stupid man. i would like to leave. >> he's free to leave, but he won't get very far. perverted-justice has joined forces with the harris county sheriff's office, providing chat logs and phone records, evidence needed to make an arrest. here in georgia, the man makes a date online for sex with someone he believes to be a minor, it's a felony. >> sheriff, get on the ground! get on the ground! >> he's arrested.
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>> please, don't take me. >> put your hands behind your back. >> please, please. oh, my god, my life is ruined! can you just shoot me? can you all just shoot me? >> and taken away. >> oh, my god. i'm an idiot. >> and he's brought into a room with an investigator from the harris county sheriff's office. >> how did it go? >> it was awesome. it was the best day of my life. >> you will hear more of scooby-doo's interview with police later. >> i never should have said any of that [ bleep ]. >> is this guy on his way here? >> with men all over the internet admitting they've seen our "to catch a predator" series, we wondered if it would stop a lot of them from trying to hook up with children? or will there be many others like scoobydoo still brazen enough to show up at our house? >> come on in. >> wait and see. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf.
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we got someone in the driveway. someone in the driveway. >> the teen inside "dateline's" hidden camera house quickly moves into position. >> coming up -- driveway battle stations, battle stations.
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>> a man who made a date online for sex with a young girl has shown up earlier than expected. our decoy, playing the part of a young girl, heads to the front door to wave the man in. >> hey. come on in. >> he's 32-year-old christopher xavier cannon, here to meet a 15-year-old virgin. at least that's what he was told. turns out he's a media director at his church, a volunteer position working with young teens, which makes his sexually explicit online chat all the more disturbing. using the screen name zavior-01, he asks the girl if she ever had an orgasm. the decoy says, "i don't think so." and he says, good. then he asks her -- >> do you want to be on top or bottom? >> i'm not sure, which is better? >> we have to see where you fit best, if you know what i mean. >> oh, i see. i think i know. >> or we can do doggy style. >> sorry, if i don't put this stuff in the washer right away, it gets wrinkles. but i made some sweet tea, so just make yourself a glass.
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>> can i use your rest room? >> why don't you have a seat real quick. >> sir -- >> okay. i knew what it was. >> what did you think it was? >> nothing. i knew what it was. >> he heads out the door right into the arms of the harris county sheriff's department. >> police, stop, stop! >> get down on the ground! get down on the ground! >> i knew what it was. i knew what it was. i wasn't doing nothing. >> as our investigation continues here in rural georgia, it becomes clear there are plenty of other men who seem to know about our investigations but show up anyway. >> yep, slowing down pulling in the driveway. you ready? >> i'm ready to go. >> here comes needafriendtotalk to 2005. he drove four hours to get here. go open the door. >> hey, come on in. it's raining outside. i'll meet you in. i just have to throw this in the dryer really quick. >> needafriendtotalkto is really 25-year-old john adam daniels, a
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carpenter. he thinks he's here to meet a 13-year-old virgin named nina. he asked her if she wants to try anal sex and if he can perform oral sex on her. after the decoy agrees, she tells him she's home alone. and he asks to pend the night. he comes prepared. >> he's brought his overnight bag, looks like. >> i had to do laundry right away. i had to have something cute to wear tonight. did you try some of my sweet tea? >> i see it. >> sorry, i'm almost done. >> okay, babe. >> did you bring me anything? >> yes, i did. >> what did you bring me? >> i have a drink and some kit-kats. >> looks like you brought enough stuff to move in. why don't you have a seat there. and like some of the others, needafriendtotalkto appears to know what he's walked into. >> am i being taped? >> you are being taped.
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>> oh, crap. am i going to be arrested? >> that's not up to me. you admit right here that you could be in trouble if anybody found out that a 25-year-old -- >> yes. >> -- was with a 13-year-old? >> yes, sir. i thought it was a bad idea. from the beginning, sir. >> if you thought it was such a bad idea, why did you do it anyway? >> i don't know, sir. >> you started talking and 45 minutes into the conversation you say, have you ever seen a man's -- blank. >> yes, yes, i'm sorry, sir. >> you ask what size bra she wears. minutes later you ask if she would like to move in with you. >> yes, sir. >> what are you thinking here? >> i'm completely and totally stupid. i'm sorry. can i leave, sir? >> just like all of the men who show up at our house, he's free to leave. since he's seen our reports before, he probably knows he won't be free for long. and there's nowhere to run. >> get on the ground.
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get on the ground! get down now, now! >> and the parade continues. >> walking up the walk towards the door. >> hi, come on in. >> back up, back up. he's right there. keep going. >> here comes another man who despite seeing our previous broadcasts is willing to take the risk of showing up at a stranger's house to possibly have sex with a minor. he's 22-year-old matthew cogburn. yesterday was his birthday. he's here to meet a decoy pretending to be a 14-year-old. this clean-cut all-american looking man has a myspace page where he says jesus rocks and lists god as his number one hero. but when he goes into a yahoo! chatroom, he seems like another person. his chat with a girl he thinks is 14 is so graphic, much of it can't be shown. he does ask the decoy if her house is secluded so if they use the jacuzzi, you can moan and squeal all you want. >> nice house. >> thank you. did you have a hard time getting
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here? >> well, the road i was looking for didn't show up. >> why don't you have a seat there and get comfortable? >> i had a feeling. >> you had a feeling what was going to happen? go ahead and sit down, please. >> no. >> well, i need to talk to you about a couple things and i think you'll want to talk about it. it will take a few minutes. why don't you have a seat? >> is this the national news thing? >> nbc? >> yeah. >> like "dateline nbc"? >> yeah. >> what was your plan here today? >> i can't answer that as i want to because i've been in a struggle with myself with what i want to do. because i'm still a virgin, and i think it's stupid that i did this. >> how old are you? >> i'm 22. >> 22. and how old was the girl you were chatting with online? >> the girl said she was 13 or 14. >> 13 or 14.
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and you thought that it would be okay to come over here and visit a young girl home alone? >> i wanted to think it was okay. but i was -- >> now, i'm looking at this chat log here. 16 minutes into this discussion you ask if she can do deep throat. explain that to me. >> no reason to explain. >> no reason to explain. how do you feel about sex? you on birth control? or are you sticking with condoms? you got toys? >> is there a need -- >> i want you to square that with what's on your myspace website, where you talk about jesus rocks. >> you're going to do this to me. all right. >> you will hear more about this man's inner struggle after he's in police custody. >> sheriff's office. get down on the ground. get down on the ground. all the way down, now. >> but there are many more potential sex predators about to keep their date with "dateline."
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sheriff's office. get down on the ground. >> get on the ground. >> please don't take me. >> as law enforcement arrests one suspect after another, what happens next is almost inevitable. one of our invited guests drives by, spots them and takes off. >> he actually watched it out front and is leaving. >> but lieutenant armbrust of the sheriff's office is not about to let 36-year-old george cleary get away. >> he actually came up three times. >> really? >> yes. >> after cleary sees this man being arrested, he heads for the
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highway. that's where detectives stop him. the 36-year-old, who makes his living as a pizza delivery man, drove two hours for the chance to have sex with a 14-year-old he met online. >> have a seat. >> using the screen name broken empires, he asks the decoy very personal questions like her bra size and do you shave down there. the decoy says, "yeah, a little, because of my bathing suit." broken empire says, "cool." and when the decoy asks what kind of girls he likes, he said small, skinny, beautiful, sexy and young. he told the decoy he would bring movies, cds and condoms. >> i see you brought condoms. >> yes. she asked me to. >> intimate lubricant. what's this for? >> she was going to give me a massage. >> while one man was scared off when he saw police activity, others are wary even when all is quiet. >> there he is. >> there he is. >> this man pulling into our driveway is 38-year-old peter ceegot, screen name donceech.
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online he goes into graphic detail how he would like to perform oral sex on the boy posing as a 14-year-old. the decoy plays along but donceech repeatedly says he's afraid of getting in trouble. we think we know why. listen as this female decoy pretending to be brian talked to donceech on the phone. >> no, what are you talking about? what's "dateline"? what is it? it's like "cops" or something? this ain't cops, you know. >> despite his fears of being caught in our report, the 38-year-old shows up anyway. >> come on. get in out of the rain. you're gonna get yourself all wet. >> del from perverted-justice now takes over the role of the boy and tries to convince the man to come inside. but donceech seems very reluctant. >> hey, bro, come on in. come on. i got to finish cleaning up the kitchen. i told you to come on in out of the rain. did you not hear me? >> he wants to be sure del is
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really the boy he came to see. >> take your hat off. >> he's suspicious p.m. >> he's leaving again. >> after del refuses to take her hat off, the 38-year-old heads back to his car. >> stop! >> that's when law enforcement moves in and arrests him. >> get the camera out of my face, buddy. >> and as you're about to see, there are more potential predators like donceech, who don't stay long. >> del is going to go out and try and get him. he's looking for a black female so we are trying to pull this off. >> meet 43-year-old james kline, a married man with three children. he's here to meet a girl who told him she was 15. online he calls himself holdyoucloser2003. he asks the girl if she ever experienced oral sex. the decoy tells him no. and he says i can tell you one thing, your mouth, you're nipples, down between your legs, too. now holdyoucloser2003 is walking into our house.
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>> i have to throw my laundry in but i made you tea. >> oh, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> how are you doing? >> pretty good. >> why don't you have a seat right over there. did you find the place okay? >> huh? >> did you find the place okay? >> no, i didn't. >> it took you a while. >> huh? >> did you get lost? >> i don't know what you're talking about. >> why are you here today? >> i don't know what you're talking about. >> you don't know what i'm talking about? >> no. >> he may be able to run away from us, but because georgia authorities believe his chat log showed intent to have sex with a minor, he's arrested. >> on the ground. get on the ground. >> the next man you're about to meet not only sits down for an interview, he actually admits it's likely he would have taken the virginity of a 13-year-old girl, if she was willing. >> hey, i'm up here. >> he's 20-year-old cody green, screen name perfectbuddy georgia. chatting online with a girl posing as 13-year-old virgin named maddygirl92. he said -- i definitely appreciate being
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your first. the decoy says, you don't mind i'm a virgin? he answers if you don't mind me taking it from you, i actually would love it. i've never been with a virgin. perfect buddy then sends not one but eight different pictures of his genitals. the chat lasts for two days. then he shows up at our house. >> i made some tea. it's on the table. >> he tries to follow the decoy. why don't have you a seat right in that chair. instead he runs into me. >> please, sir, i really drove this far for no reason. >> you drove this far for no reason? >> yes, sir. >> perfect buddy said he was looking for a friend and nothing more. but then his story seems to change. >> please, really, i swear, i'm a desperate person. i need a girl in my life. and if she really wanted to be my friend, that would be all i needed from her. >> she said she was 13. >> she did. i'm sorry, sir. i have interest in younger
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girls. that has just been a fantasy of mine. >> a fantasy? >> yes, sir. >> do you know it violates georgia law? >> yes, sir. >> did you say you are ready to have my thang in your mouth? >> yes, sir. >> what do you mean by that? >> are you ready to have my [ bleep ] in your mouth. because she was -- she was going with it. >> oh, so she wanted it? >> that's what it seemed like to me. >> it's her fault? >> it's not her fault at all. >> she made you come over here? >> i came here, for yes, for reasons like that. but if she really didn't want it, sir, i swear to you i would have never tried it. >> but if she was open to the idea -- >> yes. >> -- you would have had sex with a 13-year-old girl? >> probably, yes. i'm sorry, i know you think it's bad, but that's what it is. and that would be probably the cleanest, best pleasure i would say. >> cleanest, best pleasure. >> yes, sir. >> to have sex with a 13-year-old girl? >> yes, sir. are you her father or something like that? >> i will get to that in a
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minute. >> please tell me this, sir, am i going to be in trouble for this? >> i want to ask you one more question. you said you had to see your p.o., parole officer? >> yes, sir. >> what are you on parole for? >> i got a dui. >> anything else? >> i got a hit and run charge the other day. >> a hit and run charge? >> yes, sir. >> you had a dwi, hit-and-run charge. well, there's something you have to know. i'm chris hansen with "dateline nbc." we're doing stories on adults who try to meet teens on the internet for sex. so what happens to these men after they're arrested? >> on the ground. on the ground. >> you will hear more incredible revelations as the suspects tell their stories to the police. >> this is so sick. why did i do this? why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world.
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president obama has just arrived in myanmar, formally burma. mr. obama is fighting off critics who say the embattled country has not made enough progress in democracy toward human rights. three israelis have been killed as air strikes and rocket attacks continue at the gaza strip. a high level official is reportedly in talks about the cease-fire. welcome back to our investigation, into online sex predators. this time we're in rural harris county, georgia. so far, we've seen a series of men trying to meet underaged teens in internet chat rooms. now these suspects are under arrest and heading into a police interrogation room. again, some of what you will see see and hear is explicit. here's chris hansen. >> it was stupid. i'm a stupid man. >> after "dateline" confronts a potential sex offender here in
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rural fortson, georgia -- >> you're free to leave. >> what's going to happen? >> get on the ground! >> law enforcement working with the online watchdog group perverted-justice steps in. >> put your hands behind your back. >> even the u.s. marshal and secret service are involved. remember scooby doo atl 01? 23-year-old denis coulson? he made plans to teach new sex tricks to a girl he was told was 15. >> oh, my god. i'm a [ bleep ]. >> after he's arrested, he's put in an unmarked car and taken to this ems station, where he will be questioned by law enforcement. his car is searched. police find directions to the house, along with condoms and marijuana. >> more tv in here? >> coulson is then brought to a room where he waits to be interrogated. that's where he meets harris county sheriff mike jolly, who finds out this isn't coulson's first run-in with the law. >> there are no get out of jail free cards. >> why did you pick that girl?
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>> let's just not talk about it. >> turns out scoobydoo had several prior charges. >> coulson, he had four prior charges from theft to simple battery, simple assault. some of these are aggravated-type crimes. >> but he was never convicted. tonight he will have four more charges added to the list. enticing a child for indecent purposes, obscene internet contact, criminal attempted child molestation and possession of marijuana. one charge was dropped. scoobydoo is brought into the interrogation room. >> oh, my god. i just want to start crying but i can't cry. >> investigators read coulson his rights. >> i have to advise you that you have the right to remain silent. >> and start asking him questions. >> what screen name did you use since the 14th of july? >> scooby-doo atl-01. >> investigator gary lewis shows the 23-year-old the copy of the chat he had of the decoy playing the 15-year-old. >> that was [ bleep ].
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yeah. i should not have done it. let's not read it. >> yes. >> i should never have said any of that [ bleep ]. >> less than five minutes after you all were communicating, she relayed to you she was 15 years old. i'm curious as to why you continued the conversation. >> because i'm retarded. >> you're retarded? >> i'm retarded. i didn't look into -- i was looking for conversation. and i was conversating. i am not trying to clear it up. it was wrong, it was wrong. it's sad. >> why would you ask a 15-year-old girl if she's still a virgin? >> i think we should go ahead and stop. >> scooby-doo ends the interview pretty quickly. >> i'm tony with the sheriff's office. and this is theresa. >> but sheriff's investigators like tony knots and secret service agent disguised because of undercover work have others to question. >> basically you have been caught in a sting operation.
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that's why you're in handcuffs. >> christopher canon is the 32-year-old volunteer church director who mentioned several sexual positions he would like to try with a girl posing as a 15-year-old. he's the one who ran as soon as he saw me. why don't you have a seat real quick? >> yeah, okay. i just went to text her. that's all. >> but that's not what he tells investigators. >> it's funny. when i saw this on "dateline" a few months ago or whatever -- >> you show up in the middle of it. >> yes. that is so sick. why did i do this? >> the investigator reminds him he had been chatting online with the decoy for more than a week and many times the chat turned sexual. >> i was just playing around with her. but my intentions wasn't to do i wanted to reject it. >> but you drove 115 miles. >> i know. i kept telling myself, why am i coming out here? what are you doing?
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turn around, turn around. trust me. i wanted to turn around. >> help me understand. i'm kind of lost when you say you didn't want to come but you're here. >> part of me was like just turn around. and the part of me was this is the first weekend you have to yourself. go out and hang out a little bit. don't do anything silly. >> why would you even have a sexual conversation with a 15-year-old? >> i really tried to avoid her when i first met her. every time i would get online, she initiated the conversation. >> you said you didn't initiate the conversation, but actually you did. she never talked to you. you said hello because you saw her in a chatroom. and how are you doing today? that was the first initiation on your part? >> yeah, i did initiate. just chatting. >> you asked her if she's horny now and asked her if she's wet now. why would you care if a 15-year-old is wet? >> stupidity, man. i don't know why. >> you tell her you'd be gentle. what are you referring to when you're talking about being gentle with her? >> not being sexually touching. >> chris, we have been doing this too long. >> i understand. i understand.
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>> i know you're probably a religious man -- >> i'm going to faint. >> and you probably would feel better if -- >> if it never happened. >> if it never happened. >> she opened the door and said "come on in." >> another man who probably wishes it never happened, someone who also ran from us. but did talk to police. >> get on the ground! >> remember 43-year-old jim klein? online he made plans to lick a 15-year-old all over. he admits to investigators he has been married 20 years and has three children, ages 11, 13 and 15. >> how would you feel if this was your 15-year-old or your 11-year-old or your 13-year-old? how would you feel? >> i'd feel awful. >> that's it, just awful? >> no, i mean -- no, i mean -- >> i mean, you were pretty much down here tonight 100 miles away from home to do what you were going to do and damage this child's mind for the rest of her life. sex may be sex to you, but to
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this child, 15, she's got to live with this for the rest of her life. >> and kline actually does admit he was planning on staying the night. >> i was going to leave tomorrow morning. >> where were you going to stay at? >> she said i could stay there. she said it was a big house. >> where were you going to sleep at? did you all discuss any of those options? >> no. >> you brought four movies and arrived at 9:30 at night. >> yes. >> you would stay up all night watching movies? >> yes. if she wanted to watch all four, we would have watched all four. >> would you have done anything else if she wanted to do anything else? >> yeah, it was talked about. >> kline says he had two glasses of wine before he started chatting online and it clouded his judgment. but that doesn't explain why he showed up the next day apparently stone cold sober. >> i was seriously considering not even coming down here and i was just saying, you know, just i just don't feel comfortable about this. i just don't feel good about this. i just don't think it's a good idea. >> get on the ground. >> this man also realizes it
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wasn't a good idea. he's the religious 22-year-old who said he was conflicted about meeting a 14-year-old after a sexually graphic online chat. >> i have been in a -- i would say a mental struggle, but i'm still a virgin. i have been having trouble. >> he tells investigators that this isn't the first time he's gone to visit someone he met online. in fact, he says he met his last girlfriend on myspace. >> who is that? >> there was nothing sexual or nothing. just a good, clean relationship. >> and she wasn't the only one. >> i have met girls before, but i haven't done anything. i couldn't. because of my strict beliefs. i am solely, deep down had no intention of doing anything. i have been able to talk the way i talked and this is my punishment.
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>> and his punishment is like the other men caught in this investigation, begins when they are taken in a van to the county jail. >> turn your head to your left. >> where they are photographed. >> press down. >> fingerprinted. >> hey, kid, don't [ bleep ] up. a bad idea. >> and put behind bars, awaiting a bond hearing. most of the men have to wait 48 hours in jail until the judge will see them. >> this bond would then be set at $25,000. >> so far, you've met seven men who showed up at our undercover house. despite all of our previous investigations, there are more on the way. and you won't want to miss their stories. and watch what happens when this man tries to run from police. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars
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south, south, guys. >> it was a "to catch a predator" first. this man made plans online for a threesome with an underage teen and his adult girlfriend. >> are you ready? can you hear me? okay, great. >> 35-year-old marvin smith, being waved into our house by a decoy, said he and his girlfriend wanted to have sex with a girl who told them she was a 15-year-old virgin. >> come on in.
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i'm just getting ready. give me like a couple minutes. >> online he calls himself southwest georgia male yes. his chat is one of the most disturbing we came across. at first he offers the decoy $250. when she asks, why do you want to give me money? he says, because i want you. then he tells her about another girl he met online. >> she was 15 like you. her mom was at work. >> okay. >> she invited me over. had never had sex. >> oh. >> her and her friend. >> he goes on to say that the two girls performed oral sex on him and then he describes in detail how he claims to have taken one of the girl's virginity. and he doesn't stop there. after he sends pornography, he then introduces the decoy to a woman who calls herself phyllis, his girlfriend, and says she wants to be there with us. phyllis, then apparently gets on
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the computer herself and starts chatting with erin lynnb and explains how it would work. she says her boyfriend would have sex with both of us. as he's doing one of us, he would want us to play with each other. to verify phyllis was real, a decoy from perverted-justice spoke to her on the phone. >> good. how are you? this is erin. >> phyllis, the girlfriend doesn't show up. she apparently had to work. but southwest georgia male yes does. and he's now in our house and in hot pursuit of our decoy. >> can i give you a hug? >> have a seat. >> as the decoy walks behind the curtain, the man sees our camera crew and runs. >> he saw ron. he's coming out. he's coming out. >> and he keeps on running, even after sheriff's deputies order him to stop. >> get down! >> get down. >> finally, an officer's taser knocks him to the ground. after here's arrested, he's
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taken in for questioning. this man with the incredibly vulgar chat reveals something that ironically no longer surprises us. >> i was a minister in the church. >> what church you go to? >> baptist church. i don't want to go to prison. >> it also turns out he's married and worried about his wife finding out. >> mr. gary. >> yes, what is it? >> i'm gonna lose everything i got. >> do what? >> i'm going to lose everything i have, mr. gary. >> the 35-year-old asks to speak to a lawyer. and the interview is over. he's then taken to the county jail, fingerprinted, photographed and put behind bars. >> is marvin harrison smith your true name? >> yes, ma'am. >> the next day he goes before the judge and the bail is set. >> all right. that's a total of $35,000.
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>> back at the house, there are more than suspected predators on the way. this man pulling into our driveway is 38-year-old david driveway is 38-year-old david. he builds tunnels. >> in the chat he had mentions molesting another 15-year-old. >> he's been chatting with a decoy pretending to be 14. he says he'd rather not come to her home but take her to a hotel. >> emily, wave him in. good job. good job. >> online using the screen name tunnels1 200 he tells tracy sit isn't the first time meet a teen the internet. i gid it with a 15-year-old before and came close to getting caught. i didn't have sex with her. everything but. he was questioned by detectives but never charged foup e echar. now he wants to have sex with tracy. >> i want a of you, tracy, in every way. >> you show me, okay? >> hey.
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come on in. i made you sweet tea. >> i don't want tea. >> i'm going to throw this in the dryer real quick or everything is going to get all wrinkled. this will only take a second. i'm sorry you couldn't bring your bike. i would have loved to see it. >> have a seat right over there, please. how you doing? >> pretty good. >> sit down. >> when i confront the 38-year-old, his memory seems a bit foggy. and so you were chatting with a girl named tracy. >> right. >> and how old is tracy? >> i don't have no idea. >> the problem for you, david, is that i have the chat right here. how old are you again? not sure if i read that right. 14. she says she's 14 right here, ryan. >> i guess so. >> so what you said before was not true? okay. have you ever done this before? >> no. >> have you ever been with an underage girl before?
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>> no, not sexual, no. >> i did it with a 15-year-old before and came real close to being caught. we stay out all nugget and fall asleep in my truck. >> i didn't break the law. i knew. the police officers told me that. >> and why -- >> i don't know what the law is but he -- he questioned me. i went back home that night and he called me monday. >> when i read his some of what me wrote in his chat log, he first tries to blame the girl. i would do it in a minute with you. hoping i would stay out of jail. you ask her if she likes oral sex. >> she asked me several things also. >> does that make it right? >> no. she invited me here. >> so because a 14-year-old girl invites you to come over it's okay? >> it's wrong. i admit i'm wrong. >> why did you do it? >> there is no reason. >> i'd want to stay all night. did you bring any alcohol with you? >> yeah. >> yeah. and what did you bring exactly? >> exactly what she asked.
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>> when i asked him what his plan was here tonight, he says he's not really sure. >> if this 14-year-old girl was willing to have sex with you, would you have had sex with her? >> i can't say for sure. i never did with that other girl. that's the reason why. >> that's the reason why what? >> she was underage. >> aren't there any girls or women of legal age that you can date? >> i had a fiancee. >> you have a fiancee. how to you suppose this is going to play when she finds out about this? >> it's not going to play out at all. >> it's time to tell tunnels what he walked into. i'm chris hansen with dateline nbc. we're doing a story of adults who meet teens online and try to meet them in person for sex. if there's anything else -- >> you know, i can't understand how you're legally able to do this. >> we can. >> he says he'd like to say
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something more. >> i just need to stay off the internet. maybe. >> he says he's not a predator. he's a lonely man raising two children alone who uses the internet to meet women. >> predator is somebody that constantly does that. i don't do that. i would prefer to have someone my age. that would prefer to have me. if some female makes an offer to you and you're lonely already, it's tempting for a person. >> what made this so tempting for you? >> being lonely. >> anything else you'd like to tell us. >> are you going to get me arrested when i leave? >> had he seen our previous reports, he would know exactly what's going to happen next. >> sheriffs office. get on the ground. get on the ground now. get down. get on the ground. get on the ground. >> lay down. lay down. >> and an update on one of the most shocking men caught in our "to catch a predator" series. a rabbi. we'll do almost anything. out for drinks, eats. i have very well fitting dentures. i like to eat a lot of fruits. love them all.
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how can i help you? >> in august 2005, 54-year-old david kaye was ought in one of our to catch a predator investigations trying to meet a 13-year-old boy for sex. turns out he was a rabbi. >> you know i'm in trouble and i know i'm in trouble. >> kaye was convicted and sentenced to 6 1/2 years in prison and ten years of supervised release. the judge gave him a harsh sentence in part because he thought kaye lied at his trial. >> so how can a parent protect a child from an internet predator r? you'll find a complete online safety guide on our website, just log on to dateline.msnbc.com.
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that's all for now. i'm ann curry. for all of us here at nbc news, thanks for watching.

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